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BuffaloBFN 
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 Topic: Dem, Pub, Lib, or other...Posted: April-15-2009 at 9:14pm |
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I am proud of my country today!
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SNobsessed
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Posted: April-15-2009 at 9:53pm |
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Not to bash any of our foriegn friends, but this is definitely the place for me!
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“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”
Ben Franklin |
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-15-2009 at 10:08pm |
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Chris, I'm not proud because of the date; I'm always proud of my country...but especially today.
America is speaking and Congress needs to hear it!!! |
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critter
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 1:01am |
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I attended the TEA Party here at the Raleigh Capital building. Me and about 800 of my closest friends. It was a good turnout.
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Morfoot
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 8:59am |
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Don't guess you were at the Gold Dome yesterday were you Greg?
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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 10:32am |
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Tim, Greg loves tax day
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 11:37am |
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Roger, did you see any/many FairTax signs? 2 points for going!
Tim, we didn't go to atlanta with Sean in town...it was a zoo. I'm super happy so many did though. Eric, ask 10 people today how much income tax they paid in 2008. Some may not even know, but I'll bet you a shiny new nickel 7 or 8 will say they didn't have to pay...they got money back?!!? Maybe in a few days we'll go back through that last sentence and see if we can list how many things are just plain wrong with it. |
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 11:58am |
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Maybe Rick Perry is the only other guy out there who agrees with me?
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 12:03pm |
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are you saying they dont realize money is taken out of thier paychecks every week?
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 12:14pm |
That's exactly what I was saying!!!! "I didn't have to pay anything...I got money back" ... |
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Morfoot
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Posted: April-16-2009 at 2:43pm |
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Kim and I "OWED" the Feds this year. I think they raided my checking account at 12:01am yesterday morning cause when I checked it @ 0830 the money we owed was gone.
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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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The Lake
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Posted: April-17-2009 at 1:40am |
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Hey Greg, are you a proponent of the Fair Tax? It's an intriguing concept, but the current system is so entrenched . . .
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critter
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Posted: April-17-2009 at 3:34pm |
Saw a few signs about Fair Tax. Some of these guys are creative. Thanks for the points Greg but I would rather get a refund for a change. Last time I can remember getting a refund was in the late 70s when I was still in the Navy.
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Posted: April-17-2009 at 4:11pm |
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it is my belief that you don't pay or get back income tax only if you O V E R P A I D during the year.
George Bush so far to my knowledge is the only President to send us some money. As for the TEA party.... Most folks only watch network news and network news just don't get it. They think we just don't want to pay income tax. They miss the fact that it was the spirit of the original Tea party that inspired the April 15 one. It is about government getting too big, taking away liberties, entitlemnts, and runaway spending. It is about finacials, unions, lobbiests,running the government. Government is all about re election, no longer for the people, by the people. |
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Riley
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Posted: April-17-2009 at 4:50pm |
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The Fair Tax will help the wealthy and hurt the poor and middle class.
Anybody read today where Ohio wants to use prisoners to maintain its State House at a cost of $100/month per person. Sounds like a great idea to me. The unions are dead against it. |
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-17-2009 at 6:43pm |
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I can do without the unions
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 10:33am |
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Chuck, I am a proponent of the fair tax. The reason we'll almost surely never see it is because it takes so much power away from the political class.
Bruce, have you read the book? FairTax the book and 'FairTax, Answering the Critics' |
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Riley
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 11:05am |
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Greg, I have not read the book, but common sense tells me if the wealthy pay most of the taxes in this country and if everything is going to be "fair", then the middle (me) and poor class is going to have to pay a lot more.
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 11:14am |
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It's proportional. A little old lady gave it the name. After hearing a presentation on the idea, she said "that sure is a fair tax".
Think of the business that would come back from overseas... |
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 1:15pm |
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how about capitol gains Greg?
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 1:30pm |
They evaporate along with ALL federal taxes. The new tax is only at the retail level. No income tax, corporate tax, death tax, estate tax, capital gains....and any others you think of. Also, the fed sends you a check(prebate) at the beginning of each month based on family size to cover the tax on basic necessities. Please read the book! 
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 2:42pm |
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Buffalo,
I've avoided making a comment on the Fair Tax for two years, but for some reason can't seem to stop myself today. I see nothing fair about the "fair tax." The only fair tax, is a flat tax. Everyone pays the same flat tax on every dollar made. If you earn a dollar you pay 15 cents. If you earn 10,000,000, you pay 1.5M. No exceptions, no credits, no deductions. It is even, fair, and at the same time progressive. BKH |
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 3:41pm |
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it should be across the board, but i dont agree on a fixed 15%, what if you have 4 kids, medical bills, and the family next to you doesnt? at 15% and no kids they will move to a nicer neighborhood because they have no expenses, i think tax brackets are in order and exemptions, but need fine tuning,
this country is built on family, and burdened families shouldnt pay high taxes, the wealthy, should be in a higher tax bracket im not talking about the 6 figure wealthy, people with no siblings should be in a higher bracket and so on. fair sales tax no sin taxes, most stadiums were built on sin taxes. put sales tax on things that effect everyone |
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 3:50pm |
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Pick a number 10, 15, 20, whatever. Everyone pays the same rate, no exceptions.
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 3:52pm |
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10 for me 20 for the wealthy
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 3:56pm |
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im already so use to saying, discount if its cash....I really picture one day a currency free society, then we will really be fckd
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Posted: April-18-2009 at 3:57pm |
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I like the present system.
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-19-2009 at 7:53pm |
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I don't like signing a contract I haven't read. I like even less being handed a contract that will take me years to read and being told at the point of a gun that I have to sign it now.
The FairTax is a flat tax...only better! |
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: April-19-2009 at 7:55pm |
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Add to the above; this contract will be ever changing and you will have little to no say in the matter.
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Posted: April-20-2009 at 4:25pm |
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Fair tax, flat tax.... the rest will be called fees, and going up
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