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tkenny 
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 Topic: seacast stringer repairPosted: April-03-2011 at 10:19am |
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has anyone out there used seacast stringer repair
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eric lavine
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Posted: April-03-2011 at 11:37am |
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one guy did, but his boat sank
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-03-2011 at 1:51pm |
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The first thing that comes to mind is it's a half ass'd method that some "marina" will do for a cheap repair. Cut the top off the rotted area and pour it in.
Yes, do a search and you'll see there is a thread on one member who did it. HEAVY and EXPENSIVE!!! Don't expect to find a quick, dirty and easy way out of doing a proper stringer replacement. |
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florida boat 53
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Posted: November-01-2011 at 5:19pm |
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I know that this is a bit late for making a suggestion on your repair but when I saw the other posts about Seacast I had to respond.
Well we have used Seacast for years and it is not heavy and no boats have sank after replacing stringers and I bet the guys posting nasty things about Seacast have never even seen it it real life. Seacast is easy to use and matches a wood resin composite by volume for weight. Seacast is also 3 times as strong as a wood core transom. 
There are thousands of boats out there with Seacast transoms in them and I have never heard of one failing. Almost all of the bad reports I have come across are boat repair people that want to charge big dollars for wood replacement transoms in fiberglass boats or people that do not want to change as improvements are introduced. But them I guess there must be some people still riding horses to work and sailing boats with no engines. (I used to sail on the Great Lakes in a Crosby Cutter with no motor and we were young and having fun) If you want to know about Seacast just look on You-tube at all the postings or go to the www.transomrepair.net web site and ask some of the repairs shops listed on the site what they think about Seacast. Lets stop telling false tales about something It just make you look silly. Bruce |
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don't be stuck in the past. improvements happen all the time
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florida boat 53
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Posted: November-01-2011 at 5:28pm |
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Seacast also works fine on stringers and decks. But check it out on the web.
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don't be stuck in the past. improvements happen all the time
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TX Foilhead
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Posted: November-01-2011 at 6:34pm |
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Bruce, I see you're in sales, and I bet I know what your selling. Hope it works out better for you than it does for the guy pimpin' the Vdrives, but I bet it won't.
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Jllogan
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Posted: November-01-2011 at 6:51pm |
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Well,
I actually think that seacast would be a viable alternative but if you read the instructions on the site you will find out that it is actually more work and more expensive than wood. I think the problem is people view it as a bandaid solution and that is where the problem lies. I think post people think they can cap or fill parts of their stinger. The instructions tell you to remove all of the wood. By the time you have done that you might as well just put wood or coosa in and if you use their estimator it will cost you about 600 dollars in product to do that. So its not easier and its more expensive. If you use it the way they instruct. |
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Tim D
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Posted: November-01-2011 at 11:36pm |
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I used that stuff on a friends Mustang 17, that had stringer rot on the starboard site. Someone knocked a lot of the gel coat off the stringer when they installed a different pylon.
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21958&KW=liquid+stringer+project&PID=275814&title=the-span-classhighlightliquid-span-span-classhighlightstringer-span-span-classhighlightproject-span#275814 |
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mountaineerminer
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Posted: November-02-2011 at 1:18am |
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There is probably some rule about linking to another forum, but I followed this Seacast rebuild about 2 years ago and the guy did an amazing job on it:
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=364284&page=2 Just as Jllogan stated and Archbuild can attest; when done right it costs more and takes longer but will not rot. |
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Gary S
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Posted: November-02-2011 at 2:51am |
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Posted: November-02-2011 at 3:08am |
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for us challenged guys..thanx Gary.
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Posted: November-02-2011 at 8:57pm |
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Thanks Gary,
I struggled with that last night |
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eric lavine
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Posted: November-02-2011 at 10:44pm |
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repair and rebuild are to different terms, repair is when you sell and rebuild is when you plan on keeping it, the persona of Seacast is to make a repair and then sell it to some unlucky victim, Ive been asked many times to make a REPAIR with a Seacast, and I refuse to do it, only for the reason that it is a temporary repair to a major problem normally. but then you have to think to yourself if you completely gut a boat, why would you use Seacast? its identical to long and strong and is probably polyester vinyl based. it would be a bit expensive on an overall as someone pointed out.....When the word Seacast pops up in a coversation, normally, you think "quick fix" to a major problem, it just reminds me of throwing the ole sawdust in the rear end to quiet it down....and eventually the noise comes back, and when it does you gotta replace the entire rear end because the noise just hid the problem and now its to a point to where you cant rebuild it
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Gary S
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Posted: November-02-2011 at 11:35pm |
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Like always then Eric if it's too good to be true,it usually is? I have trouble with the fact that the prep work would be iffy,getting it clean and getting a good bond the the original glass in the boat. I could see it tho in the manufacture of new boats.
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florida boat 53
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Posted: November-03-2011 at 12:44am |
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The prep work in anything is as good as the worker. Seacast bonds to the existing fiberglass just fine. In anything the work must be done right for the project to work. So if your prep work is iffy then your work will be also.
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Posted: November-04-2011 at 2:05pm |
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Well I can't say anything about seacast but I did use NIDA-Bond pourable in my restoration of the 23' Fish and it is great. Now granted I did all the proper prep work and only poored where the motor mounts go but it is a good product. As for cheap....that it's not. I have a total of six 5 gallon pals in my boat and at $150ish a pal that is expensive. When people ask me about the NIda-pour I say "if and when I ever do another restoration I would for sure use it again. wood just doesn't belong in boats with all the new stuff out today. Thats my 2 cents.
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eric lavine
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Posted: November-04-2011 at 3:22pm |
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tell noah that
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eric lavine
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Posted: November-04-2011 at 3:26pm |
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if i was to pour a stringer i would probably put a piece of re-bar through the center the entire length
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Posted: November-04-2011 at 9:24pm |
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Eric - Rebar comes in 304 stainless?
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Posted: November-04-2011 at 10:32pm |
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anything for strength
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