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    Posted: August-07-2012 at 8:56pm
Hey everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has some good tips on removing the pesky oxidation. I would prefer not to wet sand, any recommended products. For some reason someone has told me toilet bowl cleaner works extremely well. Makes sense, but has anyone else used TB cleaner, and would it have any harmful effets to the gel?
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I think TB cleaner has been poopooed around here. Not sure Im sure someone will chime in. Do you have pics how bad? If its not bad rubbing compound and a power buffer will work. If its moderate to poor wet sanding will save you a ton of time and product, you will be wasting time with buffing compound. dont be afraid to wetsand, it works the best.
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Originally posted by CCWalds CCWalds wrote:

Hey everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has some good tips on removing the pesky oxidation. I would prefer not to wet sand, any recommended products. For some reason someone has told me toilet bowl cleaner works extremely well. Makes sense, but has anyone else used TB cleaner, and would it have any harmful effets to the gel?


TB cleaner is only good for taking off lake grime. Won't help with your oxidation.

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Perhaps it is just lake grime. I was trying some starbright marine wax applied by hand yesterday, and it improved the appearance immensely, but there was still a small amount of noticeable water spots. Perhaps the power buffer will do the trick?
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yes try power buff with rubbing compound, will probably work. Avoid the graphics, it will tear them up.
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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25497&title=detailing-question

Rotary buffer + wool pad + meguires 49 = WoW!
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I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow.
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What buffer should I purchase? I am in the same "boat" as CCWalds ... e.g. Makita 9227CX3 7-Inch Hook and Loop Electronic Polisher-Sander with Polishing Kit or a Shurhold 3100 Dual Action Polisher? I am a newbie to restoring boat finishes and appreciate in advance a definitive answer!
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Any good sized VARIABLE SPEED rotary buffer will do. The Makita and Dewalt are top notch comercial units. I would not hesitate to buy either new or used. While waiting for my 6" hook & loop backing and pads to come in I borrowed a friends Harbor freight buffer with a meguires thread on 8" double sided twisted wool pad. It did the job just fine with no issues ~ thought the gear drive made noise and the head did built lots of heat.


I bought the smaller lighter FLEX 3403 on a Referb deal off of ebay for $125. My thoguhts are that it will be easier to work the smaller areas with the lighter machine and a smaller pad.   The larger 8" pad is a little more then it is rated for but I think I can get buy using it non commercial.


Here below is a link to 53 thread of Inboard Ski boat shine & detail... Lots of good reading in the thread ~ though I'm sure some here may have a different term    for what these guys are polishing...

Show us your shine
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I pulled some moderate oxidation off mine with the 3M rubbing compound/oxidation remover(by hand). My buddy was so impressed he got some for his boat afterwards. Stuff is expensive, usually around $30 a bottle. Wish I still had the pics but I bought a 94 that hadn't been waxed/washed or covered for 3 years in the florida sun where it just sat.
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I have this with a wool pad, big guns...

http://www.milwaukeetool.com/tools/metalworking-and-grinders/7-and-9-inch-sanders/225-max-hp-7-inch-9-inch-sander-0-6000-rpm/6078

They make a lower rpm polisher.. worm drive, more reasonable rpm, my bud has one, good tool.

http://www.milwaukeetool.com/tools/metalworking-and-grinders/polishers/7-9-inch-dial-speed-control-polisher/5460-6

I concur, 3M super duty is the shizzy for first cut.

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I too only go Milwaukee with hand power tools. I feel in the long run getting top quality pays off. I have a 9" Milwaukee buffer. I also buy 3M's 2+2 pads. I like them since they are two sided. Flip the pad over for different compounds.


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I was going to buy the Makita but I ended up finding a Dewalt with 11 wool pads, and 3 bottles of compound for $100. An offer I could not refuse.   
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Originally posted by Big Pappa Big Pappa wrote:

I was going to buy the Makita but I ended up finding a Dewalt with 11 wool pads, and 3 bottles of compound for $100. An offer I could not refuse.   

Tiawanize?    in the long run, you may regret the purchase especially after you have some experience with the 11 pads!


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Tiawanize?    in the long run, you may regret the purchase especially after you have some experience with the 11 pads!


Yea, I have tried them on my transom and it works great on the white but can see some swirling in the maroon stripe. So I am only going to use the wool for an initial cutting pass. I have upgraded and bought several stages of foam pads to go with it now to to take care of the rest of the polishing stages.
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