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phatsat67
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Posted: January-25-2015 at 10:24am |
I have a Dewalt rotary that seems to be a pretty nice piece. I am a fan of Dewalt anyhow. It lets you get down below 1000 rpms in speed I believe.
I've buffed 100s of cars over my time but only brought two boats back from wet sanded surfaces. I need to read up and start buying some products as the dash is the first spot on the docket to wet sand and buff. Deck will just receive a 2 or 3 state aggressive to final polish buff. |
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TX Foilhead
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Get the complete one with 3 bottles of polish and 3 pads.
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84SNautique
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I checked Amazon and there two polishing kits. One is around $26 and the other is $132. Which one are you referring to?
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Hollywood
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I definitely don't have that problem. |
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TX Foilhead
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The last step of the 3M stuff will polish the decals, I wasn't brave enough to try anything more aggressive on them. It also does a pretty good job of minimizing the orange peel on a new vehicle if you're looking for something to do after you finish polishing the boat.
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Hollywood
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I used foam pads on the BFN and it turned out good but it also started pretty decent. No sanding and I went right over the decals, pinstripe was removed prior to. I have wool pads for the Martinique, it's going to require a much more aggressive effort to shine that thing up.
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TX Foilhead
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3M makes pads for each of the 3 compounds/polishes, there's a kit on Amazon that includes the polishes and the pads. Get some pad cleaner and clean up the pads when you're done and they'll last a long time, I've done the boat 2 times and 2 full size trucks and the pads are still looking good.
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Orlando76
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Truthfully I'd go to somebody/sponsor on here for the decals rather our lovely dealer.
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Gary S
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It should tell you on the bottles what pads to use,white foam is for compound,black for polish and blue is for ultra polish . Don't go cheap on the sandpaper 3m once again is great,change it often. Doing it by hand will kill you but you won't make any mistakes,resist the urge to go with coarse paper,do a section with 1000 or 1200 and see how it goes if needed. If your boat is not bad the compounds will do fine.
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gpax
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I have a few questions as I'm about to undertake this on my 97 Sport Nautique.
I have bought the 3 3M products recommended. What pads should I buy for rotary and does anyone have a good place online to pick those up? I plan on removing my decals. Any idea where I can get new ones. I've contacted my local dealer in Orlando but have received no response. If I do need to wetsand is the process done by hand with just dipping the sandpaper in a bucket of water? |
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JPASS
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There's no real oxidation on our boat. This polisher is to keep it nice and shiny. Polish once or twice a year and wax 3-4 times a year. depending on how she looks.
It will also come in handy for use on the family autos. |
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8122pbrainard
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JP, How heavy is the oxidation you are trying to remove? Typically a RO will not take the place of a rotary. |
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JPASS
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I just picked up this porta cable orbital polisher from a detail supply friend of mine.
Haven't tried it out yet though. |
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62 wood
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I use a Sioux Air buffer A lot lighter, but you need a good air compressor..
btw, I did some "horse trading" to get mine. There are also some less expensive ones out there that work fine as well. . |
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8122pbrainard
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Al,
I don't know how you missed the variable speed. I bought mine in 85 to buff the varnish out on my Atom. It was the first bright job I buffed and knew I needed the real low speed. At least on a horizontal surface, they aren't that heavy! |
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DrCC
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Pete, I bought my Milwaukee probably before the variable speed was available. I've had it since the early to mid '80's, back then it was 180.00 So, it's really great to see the costs have not gone up that much. That's a lot of long lasting machine for 219.00
edit: and I didn't know that last line rhymed until now. I'm thinking: tag line. ________________ That's a lot of long lasting machine for 219.00 |
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DrCC
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And, It probably should be noted that four 60.00 machines Does Not equal one 240.00 machine.
Porter-Cable also makes a real good machine. |
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8122pbrainard
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Al, Maybe you bought the cheapest Milwaukee? The one I linked And the one I have is: Operating Speed (RPM): 0 - 1,750 Yes, it is on the heavy side but that's due to it's HD construction. |
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DrCC
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I like the Milwaukee, BUT it's a tad fast and a tad heavy.
I think the ideal speed is 1200 to 1500 rpm's my Milw. is 1700. I agree with H/W over 1000 gt. is a waste, let the compound do it. |
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8122pbrainard
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I like the Milwaukee. Mine hasn't let me down yet. |
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Hollywood
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Google image "rotary buffer"
I like the makitas |
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iplan
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Hollywood ~~~ Would like to see a picture or link to the buffer your recommending if you get a chance. |
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85 Ski Nautique 2001.
Stringer replacement job completed July 3 2014. Exterior painted June 2015. The Trailer is next. |
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Hollywood
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Holding the buffer up is far easier on the arms than sanding. Super Duty removes 1000 grit scratches. Two passes of 1000 or maybe a 1200 to be safe but no reason to go past that unless you are seeking an upper body workout.
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iplan
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This is an amazing transformation... Should give everyone hope that their gelcoat is incapable of being salvaged... |
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85 Ski Nautique 2001.
Stringer replacement job completed July 3 2014. Exterior painted June 2015. The Trailer is next. |
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Donald80SN
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Steve K,
Water could be coming in from inside the boat and going through the glass, resin and gel from the inside and causing the dull finish. Just trying to help. Donald |
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Air206
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Now Donald, be nice.... you know you gotta hide the rot inside by keeping it shiny outside! Isn't that what we all do? Even sometimes with our boats.... |
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Donald80SN
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Steve,
Stop sanding and check those stringers by taking some deep core samples. There could be problems down under. Donald |
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TRBenj
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If youre sure that you got all of the scratches from previous rounds with the 2000 or 3000, then start with the middle step instead (medium grade compound) and see how it looks afterwards. If you dont see any larger scratches left, then proceed to the Finesse-It II.
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Swatkinz
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All,
If you complete your wetsanding with 2000 or 3000 grit paper like I did, does going over it with the 3M super duty compound not undo what you did with the fine paper? Hard to argue with results but dang that 3M SD is some gritty stuff |
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Steve
2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
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TRBenj
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Steve, FYI, Joel followed the suggestions I gave him on the products/pads/etc that I detailed in the for common questions forum. I know several people who have used this recipe and turned out some amazing results. Check out pictures of Brad's (Barracuda) '86 or the Hart's boats... theyve got it down to a science!
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