Sanger DX II Build Quality?

Remember you guys saying the replacement for the 80' was a MC.

Maybe you need a better hookup at CC, give Zack a call at N3 in Indy perhaps he can help you get exactly what you want in a 200.

As far as Sanger, there is one regular here, Andy aka "GlassSeeker" who owns one, hopefully he will chime in. Thought I read somewhere they still do their stringers with wood.

quinner wrote: Remember you guys saying the replacement for the 80' was a MC. Maybe you need a better hookup at CC, give Zack a call at N3 in Indy perhaps he can help you get exactly what you want in a 200. As far as Sanger, there is one regular here, Andy aka "GlassSeeker" who owns one, hopefully he will chime in. Thought I read somewhere they still do their stringers with wood.

My local CC dealer here is checking another avenue at the factory for the minor deviation in gel coat I would like. Indy is my next thought but I prefer to keep my business local if possible.

Yes, they do still use wood stringers. They like the dampening quality and low weight of wood. Since their production volume is low the extra labor of stringing the boat in wood is not a problem for them. Makes sense to me...

A crate XS 550 + 1985 Barefoot Nautique would be like half the price of a brand new boat.

supersonicus wrote: Yes, they do still use wood stringers. They like the dampening quality and low weight of wood. Since their production volume is low the extra labor of stringing the boat in wood is not a problem for them. Makes sense to me...

There is no extra labor involved with using wood stringers. The weight argument is incorrect- almost every alternative I can think of weighs less than wood. The dampening quality is an ok argument, but there are superior materials that would dampen just as well- theyre just more expensive.

The only reasons to use wood are because its cheap and readily available. All of the major players (CC/MC/Bu) have found it worthwhile to invest in molds for their fiberglass stringers, and either leave them hollow or fill them with foam. It is probably more cost prohibitive to do that on a low volume builder like Sanger. Composite coring options that could be used in place of wood are not cheap- so they choose not to use them. Making an argument on the continued use of wood based on anything other than cost is really just marketing spin. Wood is simply a "good enough" material... and thats ok. All of the manufacturers have to make choices based on cost, volume and ROI. Bu and MC glue down their stringers, for example... not how I would do it, but "good enough" for a production boat.

If youve got the coin for a new boat, and the time to dedicate to a project, you could have one BADASS rebuilt BFN. Heck, give me $40k and I'd build you a sweet one.   

Tim, Lets start BFN Rebuilders LLC. Brand new barefooters for 35k. Completely dialed in and ready for another lifetime of footing.

phatsat67 wrote: Tim, Lets start BFN Rebuilders LLC. Brand new barefooters for 35k. Completely dialed in and ready for another lifetime of footing.

25k???

phatsat67 wrote: That's not to shabby!! I bet you can trim a few extra $$$ off that if you get serious.

Hmmm.

Hw is on the right path.

supersonicus wrote: I just can't find a donor boat that makes sense.

How long have you been looking? Can't find it or don't want it (a BFN) anymore?

Hollywood wrote: supersonicus wrote: I just can't find a donor boat that makes sense. How long have you been looking? Can't find it or don't want it (a BFN) anymore?

Got one?

JoeinNY wrote: supersonicus wrote: How sweet would the Barefoot Unique be with the 550 in it???;-) How much would it be worth to ya to find out? It would probably be much more reasonable/reliable to put a 450 in it- but if you really needed the 550 my guess is you would be close to the price of that sanger - if the 450 would do then it would save you considerable coin. If your serious talk to Reidp/BJ and have them put you together a price on that package

Even a 409 would be awesome in that boat.

supersonicus wrote: Even a 409 would be awesome in that boat.

Is that how you want me to have them quote it?   My guess is that it would save 4.5-6k over the 450. You could always add more power later, after the 409 is out of warranty and the money tree had grown back some.   

Personally I would go to reid at racecity/PCI Marine to put in a 409.. as they deal PCM engines and are familiar with what it takes to properly install new engines in old boats - but yeah between the cost of the boat, engine, and install it wouldnt be cheap. Just worth it! The trade in of the current 351 *might* cover the install/refit cost (not including the engine of course) of the new 409,

The late model engines are neat stuff. Miles and miles of care free fun. For me however, carburated big block all the way. Rebuilt and properly tuned 454 with few tweaks here and there, yummy...

Who cares about real GPS numbers....dial up the Airguides and go for a hot 302 in a Tique with the vents open

.....makes you feel like you're going much faster than 70mph