mistery object |
Post Reply | Page 12> |
Author | |
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Posted: June-14-2016 at 11:20pm |
We had an issue with our 1995 Sport Nautique cutting out at high speed. Isolated the issue to the gas tank. Opened up the top of the tank and found some interesting thing in there.. a screw.. the little chain that used to keep the gas cap attached to the boat, and a mistery object. It is in 3 pieces but looks like it was about 4 inches wide. Kinda looks like a rubber diaphram but it's a strange type of rubber. Anyone have any idea what it is and if it is... gasp.. important? Boat is running great now since this object was removed.
|
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
Gary S
Grand Poobah Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
|
jbear
Grand Poobah Joined: January-21-2005 Location: Lake Wales FL. Status: Offline Points: 8193 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
team red....my new favorite color.......
john |
|
"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
|
Gary S
Grand Poobah Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Are you home? I thought you might be in Haiti. I owe you a call one of these nights
|
|
jbear
Grand Poobah Joined: January-21-2005 Location: Lake Wales FL. Status: Offline Points: 8193 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
yup...Haiti in October I think.
Tennessee on June 30th. Was just there over Memorial Day. Cant wait to get back. yeah..as always we need to talk in person. Thursday..Friday..Saturday in Orlando for Church conference. Early next week? For sure! john |
|
"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
|
8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Cliff,
CC is notorious for leaving trash in the boats. Many have found very interesting items under or in the bilge foam when removing it. "strange type of rubber"? It may be swollen from sitting in the fuel or they just have strange rubbers down at the factory? Yes, a picture sure would help. |
|
Hollywood
Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13514 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
where's tryathlete to rail you on your spelling
|
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
First, and most importantly, I like red too... Not Ms. Saggy Boobs on the right... I'm talking about the one in the middle. :)
I am going to stop by the boat on my way home from work today and if I can find where I put this weird rubbery diaphramy thingy I will take pictures and post them. Not to change the subject, but wouldn't you know it, after putting up with this issue all of last season, and finally fixing it, the boat ran great for 2 solid hours today... then, 200 feet from the dock the motor died. Started right back up but the starter kept spinning even though the motor was running. Quickly shut the key off... and the haunted thing just kept running.... Starter spinning... motor running.... Quickly opened the cover and pulled off the coil wire.... now the starter was spinning and the motor is spinning but of course isn't "running" because there is no spark..... So, what does one do 200 feet from the dock in this situation? Of course, put the coil wire back on and get yourself home... well, within 100 feet of the dock... Mr. Starter decided it didn't like running for 2 minutes straight.... and gave up. This is why we keep a paddle on the boat. Yanking the starter tomorrow night to bench test it. Ugg |
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Cliff,
I have a feeling your starter relay contacts welded themselves together. Weak battery? Bad cables? Bad cable connections? Deep cycle battery? |
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Have to look at everything I know it's not a deep cycle... just a good ole boy car battery.
|
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
Hollywood
Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13514 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
200 feet is not that far to row. I would have saved the starter and got out the paddle. Crafty, and ballsy, reconnecting the coil like that though ha
|
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
You're not kidding... Asking your wife "Can you plug that wire in" is very crafty.... and I suppose ballsy.
|
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
tryathlete
Platinum Member Joined: April-19-2013 Location: Lake Villa, IL Status: Offline Points: 1797 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I am still dealing with "the prop is sheered off" and in recovery. |
|
tryathlete
Platinum Member Joined: April-19-2013 Location: Lake Villa, IL Status: Offline Points: 1797 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
OK, doesn't look like a diaphragm... more like a gasket.. almost like a toilet bowl gasket that goes between the bowl and the tank.
|
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
Hollywood
Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13514 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
An old sender gasket perhaps? Nonetheless not something that should be floating around in there.
|
|
Fl Inboards
Grand Poobah Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I know what it is! And I aint telling!!!
Going to let you experts go on and theorize! Art you stay out of it!!!LOL!! Glad your boat is running better.. |
|
Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Took the old starter and bench tested it.... Direct to battery on bench the solenoid pops in and out but the starter does not spin. It's dead.... Got a new starter. Bench tested it first and it spins strong. Put it in the boat, turn the key... and nothing.... Jump the solenoid and the boat starts right up. Any idea where I should start, keeping in mind that the original problem was that while on the water the boat dies, I started it up and the starter kept spinning? I had an extra new resistor that I planned to change out with, but when I opened up the bag I had it in, it is rusted really bad.
Maybe pick up a new resistor? Or start with the starter relay? P.S. this is a 1995 Sport Nautique, but all of the PROTEC crap has been switched out to a carb, cap, rotor, manual fuel pump, etc. |
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
Hollywood
Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13514 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Starter relay could be bad but keep in mind the key switch start post and neutral safety could also be interrupting your starting circuit.
Your engine won't run at all with a bad ballast resistor. It either works or it won't allow any power to the coil or distributor. |
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I am a master at wiggling the throttle just right to make sure the neutral safety is not engaged :) I will however bypass the switch and see if it starts up.
I was just looking at and auto parts store online website at starter relays and never realized they can be so bad... Some of the relays have 1 star reviews saying things like.. "Do not buy, cheap product, second time I started my truck the starter stayed engaged"... Generally I find that buying certain parts for a 351 motor in a "1993 Ford Bronco" replaces very well with the motor I have. The relay with the best reviews which is in stock at my local store is $21.99 and looks exactly the same. SkiDim sells the "Marine Starter Relay" for $28 + shipping and of course I have to wait. Is there really a difference? From what I've seen with cap differences maybe the terminals are just made of a different ant-spark material? |
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
quinner
Grand Poobah Joined: October-12-2005 Location: Unknown Status: Offline Points: 5828 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
So does that mean we should call you Master Bates, lol Where are u on Candlewood? We have a place in Sherman at Holiday Point |
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Ya know, I tend to avoid the word "master" in everyday life, but figured on here nobody would pick up on that. lol. I've been called Norman, been called Master. Could be worse :)
We launch out of Brookfield's Town Launch just about every weekend. Too cheap to pay the $2,000 + for the 5 month boat slip. I only live about 1/2 mile from the launch so it works out well. On most weekends we usually launch and hunker down by Dike's Point in New Milford. If the kids want to tube we head up your way to pull the tube around Deer Island which IMHO is the best and safest tubing area. Then we anchor down to watch the brave souls jump off Chicken Rock. |
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Clif,
I always encourage testing before just throwing parts at a problem. Before you run out and get a starter relay (solenoid), how about getting the VOM out and testing why it's not working?? You bench tested the starter and didn't get any rotation so you bought a new one. There's a chance all the old one needed was a commutator clean up and possibly brushes!!! |
|
Blamey
Gold Member Joined: August-18-2015 Location: White Plains,NY Status: Offline Points: 631 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
No! Don't be talking like that around here. |
|
96 Super Sport
Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I hear ya... When it comes to the question on whether or not to replace something the first thing that comes to mind is the horrors of getting stuck of the water. I do tend to over-replace. I'm still gun-shy from the days this boat had the Pro-Tec and I would be getting towed in every other week.
|
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
Hollywood
Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13514 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
karma for all that tubing |
|
clibat2
Groupie Joined: May-21-2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Replaced the Starter Relay and it started right up!. Just as exciting as that, I turned the key off and it turned off!
Thanks gang. |
|
Candlewood Lake, Western Connecticut
|
|
74Wind
Grand Poobah Joined: August-02-2011 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 2101 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Back in the 70's we kept our century in a slip at a nice boat/yacht club that I want to say was toward the southern end on the Brookfield side, had nice docks, nice grassy area, nice clubhouse, can't remember the name..ring any bells? |
|
1974 Southwind 18
1975 Century Mark II |
|
Post Reply | Page 12> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |