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    Posted: April-25-2007 at 9:21am
Doesn't the classic have a 12" prop? Are you doing any mods to the shaft/strut to swing a larger dia. or just counting on higher RPM's and more prop pitch. I'm just thinking about how you are planning on getting that much HP to the water.


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I figure this thread would be a better place for these pics that Reid posted.

Originally posted by reidp reidp wrote:

Here's MY 393 (390+.020") which I just picked up from Holman Moody Friday afternoon. It's off to the painters tomorrow for some vintage INTERCEPTOR green paint. The painters are actually me and buddies at the local wooden boat shop who have the color custom mixed since you can't buy it anymore. This 390 was born in '63 as a 300HP engine with high-for-a-marine engine 9.6 compression. It's now up to an honest 10.3 according to Silvolite, who provided the forged flat tops. HM reground the cam to a more aggressive .480" lift pattern and we went with the Edelbrock Perf RPM intake shown and are hoping for maybe 340-350 solid HP. They would dyno it, but guess what,... the standard dyno won't do a rev rot engine.     





    
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Good question, I would be very interested in hearing how your prop selection/testing goes, that thing is going to be a monster.
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Reid, I was starting to worry that something happened to you but as you stated in your other post you have just been away for a week. Glad to hear that's all it was. So now, how are you getting that HP to the water?


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Pete, Sorry I missed this post the other nite when I returned home. While I believe Classics originally had something like 12x14s from the factory with 312 engines, this boat came to me with a 13x14 which is on it now. Before the rebuild it would turn about 42-4400rpm. As you can see from this photo, a PO added this adjustable angle strut. There's evidence of a run-aground with glass repair above the prop, so I don't know why this was added and whether it was a replacement for a bent strut or installed when the engine was installed in '63 in order to gain more clearance. Someone else with an original strut Classic may be able to tell us how much clearance there is with whatever size prop, or mainly a 12" dia. Multiple previous owners ran it for years with 300HP and I'll assume a 13" prop but you never can tell. For a 17' boat she's on the heavy side at 2400-2500 lbs from what I've read, so it won't be a crazy amount of HP I don't think. If the boat runs 50-55 mph I'll be tickled. The engine is now a pretty light green with "Brainard approved" detailing. I lost a week on the project because of "Work" (I hate that stuff), but will be back at it this coming week. Gotta go to dinner now, catch back up later.     
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Reid, Do you know if the hull damage above the prop is from grounding and not erosion from the prop being to close to the hull? I can't really tell from the picture how much clearance there is.

What boat are you bringing to Green Lake?


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Good Sunday morning all. Pete, the hull damage looks most definitely like a repair. The clearance between prop and hull on this boat, about 3/4", is actually greater than what I have on several Mustangs with 12"ers.
I'm currently like a kid anticipating Christmas morn on this project so I'll keep posting progress.

As for Green Lake, I'd love to bring this boat, esp with the fresh engine, but I don't think it'll fit in our toy hauler camper which we only measured and verified for a Mustang before buying and the Classic is somewhat wider. The camper is still down in FLA and yet to make it to our home for actual fitment testing. So it looks like the little light blue Mustang gets the nod. I'm trying dilegently to enlist another follower or two for the trip up who may be able to tow another boat which would be the 390.   
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Well the 390 is now green and back at Holman Moody. The pics make it look a little more blue than green. It was sort of hard justifying the painting of the intake, but I wanted the vintage orig look. Plus I plan to loose the wing tip valve cover bolts which were on it from a PO, and may loose the red plug wires also. Can't decide on them yet. I'll find out tomorrow whether it gets re-installed in the boat right there at HM and test-run on site. That will certainly be the quickest route, but you know the downside $$.

While there I also took pics of a couple of neat old Ford race cars, both 427 powered. I won't even try and compete with MM's bikini clad pics, but to some guys these seem to have the same effect.







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Originally posted by reidp reidp wrote:

MM's bikini clad pics


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Tom, that was a reference to MaddMarxx's remarkably well-updated thread "Signs of life on the sand bar", like you hadn't noticed, and not Mark in a bikini.
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Did I miss the Mark in a bikini pics?

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That looks to be a 64 Thunderbolt. It would make a great tow vehicle for the old '62!

I can't tell which series the GT40 is.
Both machines are incredible, rare and extrememly valuable. Thanks for the 427 fix!

Ah yes, boats. Here is the pic of the strut from my '62 classic. I believe it to be original.


It is 5-1/2 inches from the center of the back of the strut to the hull. I currently have a 12x13 OJ 4 blade. The PO had a 13x14. Hence the hull rash around the rudder.

Your motor looks fantastic! I'm green with envy.
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is that an original GT40 !!!!!!!!!!!... your motor looks nice and shiny:)
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Reid, It sure looks good to me with the exceptions of the non original items you have already mentioned!!! The color correct paint job makes me want to pull my 312 and start working on it. I'll give it a couple more years unless something happens. I like yourself have other priorities / projects going on.

The plug wires and boots on my 4 cyl. Atom were not correct from when I rebuilt it 20 years ago. (white silicone) You can imagine how it drove me up a wall but somehow I put up with it untill it started running poorly. (I found lots of green corroded teminal ends but have since discovered dielectric grease!) It wasn't easy finding plain black wire that wasn't Bling purple or yellow!! I almost ended up having to buy a whole roll plus bags of 100 plug and distributor ends. A friend directed me to Fleet Farm and I ended up with a universal farm tractor set. Runs better with the plain wire than it did with the fancy stuff!! I found out that since it is the original 6 volt that plain wire is the only way to go and I didn't care how many TV's it screwed up!


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Is this what you guys had in mind???????



By the way, nice motor reid!!!!!!!
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Damn...Im hott..You guys need to be careful what you ask for!!

Reid, the motor looks hot, is that the one I get use when we come up??
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Reid, that motor is smokin hot!

MM, so is your body in that shot but you are definitely a 2 bagger, one for you and one for ?, in case yours breaks!
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I sure wish you'd taken your shirt off when we were working on the '80 or later when we went out on Lake Shipp. But I realize Blondie must feel she has to keep that bod under wraps.

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MM, Yep that's the boat/engine you'll be running when you come up, IF... you're wearing that swimsuit.

Thanks quinner. I'm still looking forward to a day at Blarney's.

About the cars above, they were both build at the HM shop from the ground up just several years back, so not original. The Fairlane, while looking like a Thunderbolt drag car as Raindog mentioned, was actually custom built as a vintage road course racer for a customer.
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Nice looking mill. What area of lkn are you on? We have a place off perth near the airport...maybe I'll see you around.
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Bremsen, Come on by! I thought I'd read somewhere that you were near. We're way down towards the end of Brawley on past The Point. By water you hit marker 7 then turn SE about 10 o'clock across the channel. Look for the white roof boathouse one dock in from point facing north. Normally we're hanging out by the dock on weekends and many weeknites when it's nice.
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Yeh, it was in waterdog's thread....I got confused on who lived up there. May just have to swing by sometime. Would love to get a look at that mustang. We're up in stumpy creek right at the end of the runway (just follow the planes in), grey boathouse.

Oh, and tell Lee the guys at Essex say hello.

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Are you anywhere near or know Fast Eddie, the world-renowned marathon barefooter with the Python re-powered BFN? This guy has three incredible BFNs. I need to get some picts of his boats posted.
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Just a step closer. Off the engine stand and onto the prep table. The trans, carb, and plumbing are all completed. May be in the boat later this week.   
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reid that looks great, clean enough to eat off..
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Reid,

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Reid, Are you sure the color is correct? Just kidding! It really is looking great.


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Wow, that's looking incredible Reid. Once I get our interior back in I'll have to stop by and say hello.

I don't know fast eddie, but the house was just purchased recently....we mainly stay on MIL. I've seen several barefooters up that way, but never behind a CC. A python re-powered BFN, thats got to be a sight (and sound )
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I think we can label this a cream puff,
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