Correct Craft Trailer Fenders

8122pbrainard wrote: Ok Kev, I'll take you up on this one! You haven't been doing to well on your bets lately! You will have to wait until I get up north and that won't be until Memorial day. You do realize that a drop axel is the forged offset from the spring seat to the centerline of the wheel.

I'm not sure I follow. I better be clear since we are getting into double digit $$.

Not this.


This.

Ok I get what you're saying now, but confused as to why you even posted that pic. I see where the spring mounts are different. On a "real life" drop axle they mount on the drop, on the one I made the springs mount on the high end, just with a dip for the keel.

I thought what everyone called a "drop" axle around here was the pic I posted, which I guess really isn't a drop axle like you have made clear. All the CC trailer pics posted all look to have the high spring mounts, irregardless if they dip/drop.

So...if standard and low-boy trailers all have the same spring mounts from the axle, they must have different upper mounts and/or different springs themselves?

HW:0
Pete:2
Still drinking Sam Adams right?

Check out the fenders

JoeinNY wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: boat dr wrote: COST..................... CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck....... Yes Or making their own fiberglass vents with left over glass/resin. Or on the cheaper models using 2 step pads instead of 4. It all adds up! I kinda doubt it, round bolt on stamped fenders could be gotten much cheaper than what it cost CC to make these fenders and the corresponding structure that holds them up. My bet they are square and reinforced as a result of CC succumbing to the reality that trailer fenders serve as boarding steps on a regular basis, something round fenders are not well suited for...

I agree- note how cheap you can find round fenders on ebay. These square ones take a lot more fab. Bruce, I agree that I probably wouldnt choose this style for a new boat, but any CC from the mid 70's to late 80's doesnt look quite right sitting on a trailer with any other fender.

Now that we've got the type of fender squared away (I think), does anyone else need a set? Ill confirm if they are compatible with the 2001 trailers, but I am confident that they will work on 1977-1982 #2 and #3 single axle (not Lowboy) trailers.

TRBenj wrote: JoeinNY wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: boat dr wrote: COST..................... CC was not in a cash flow mood during that time, and any means to save a buck....... Yes Or making their own fiberglass vents with left over glass/resin. Or on the cheaper models using 2 step pads instead of 4. It all adds up! I kinda doubt it, round bolt on stamped fenders could be gotten much cheaper than what it cost CC to make these fenders and the corresponding structure that holds them up. My bet they are square and reinforced as a result of CC succumbing to the reality that trailer fenders serve as boarding steps on a regular basis, something round fenders are not well suited for... I agree- note how cheap you can find round fenders on ebay. These square ones take a lot more fab. Bruce, I agree that I probably wouldnt choose this style for a new boat, but any CC from the mid 70's to late 80's doesnt look quite right sitting on a trailer with any other fender. Now that we've got the type of fender squared away (I think), does anyone else need a set? Ill confirm if they are compatible with the 2001 trailers, but I am confident that they will work on 1977-1982 #2 and #3 single axle (not Lowboy) trailers.

Bruce, I agree that I probably wouldnt choose this style for a new boat, but any CC from the mid 70's to late 80's doesnt look quite right sitting on a trailer with any other fender.

I hear ya. I guess I've just got a thing for those '60's boats. Even the trailers get me excited. Of course, they've got to be painted white, which mine will be eventually.

81nautique wrote: Hollywood wrote: I thought what everyone called a "drop" axle around here was the pic I posted, which I guess really isn't a drop axle like you have made clear. All the CC trailer pics posted all look to have the high spring mounts, irregardless if they dip/drop. I too refered to that pic as a drop axle but I understand that is not really what it is. I will have to check tonight but I believe what CC does with the low boy trailer is to mount the axle on top of the spring as opposed to the spring on top of the axle as on the standard trailers. That would drop the trailer frame down the thickness of the axle then.

My (what I feel is a #3LB)

81nautique wrote: I will have to check tonight but I believe what CC does with the low boy trailer is to mount the axle on top of the spring as opposed to the spring on top of the axle as on the standard trailers. That would drop the trailer frame down the thickness of the axle then.

Pay the man! Which is exactly why the fenders on the LB trailers need to be taller, since they are mounted to the frame.

Steve, in an emergency situation where you'd have to put your beer down, the square fender top is convenient.

8122pbrainard wrote: With the fenders and vents, you all may be missing the point that the Doc first made that started this. Cash flow! The bean counters will look at the payables and in a effort to reduce them will pull purchased items back in house. They may or may not know that manufacturing a item will cost more but it will no longer be a payable. They may have the people and during slow times can put them to work in this case making some fenders or sanding vents. No layoffs and no paying the employer share of unemployment. Joe, If a half circle (the round fender) is firmly attached at the ends, I will say it is stronger than the square one. You do realize that the strongest structural shape is a circle.

Believe me I understand cashflow and the structural benefits of the arc but we started off with a question about the move from the 60's round fenders to the later fugly fenders and its not even a contest on cost or strength beween the two. The round fenders were one piece bolted to the side of the trailer in two places sometimes with a support rod. The later ones are flat with six bends and bolted in four places to two welded on square stock pieces front and back each supported in most cases two welded support straps added to resist bending towards the wheel or down ward which have also have added brackets welded to them for outbound yellow lights. You couldn't buy the metal for the later setup for the cost of the fender and bolts on the earlier setup. I think they were trying to provide a safer more functional trailer in this case and spent the money to do so. If they were saving money it was in the quality of the welders they employed....

8122pbrainard wrote: Sorry Tim as this is certainly not the direction you wanted this thread to go. We need some people who need fenders so Tim can proceed!

No worries, Pete- now we have a better idea which trailers these fenders will work for! I dont *need* anyone else to order them, but I figured it would save us all a few bucks if there were others in need. These fenders arent available anywhere, and I cant be the only one with a rusty trailer! I thought the price was very reasonable for a custom fender, too.

Anyone interested can just post here or shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com

8122pbrainard wrote: 81nautique wrote: Hollywood wrote: I thought what everyone called a "drop" axle around here was the pic I posted, which I guess really isn't a drop axle like you have made clear. All the CC trailer pics posted all look to have the high spring mounts, irregardless if they dip/drop. I too refered to that pic as a drop axle but I understand that is not really what it is. I will have to check tonight but I believe what CC does with the low boy trailer is to mount the axle on top of the spring as opposed to the spring on top of the axle as on the standard trailers. That would drop the trailer frame down the thickness of the axle then. My (what I feel is a #3LB)

Pete, Are those springs and axle original? I've never seen a single leaf or that round axle on a CC trailer.

Wow, hard to believe that a thread about a trailer fender is well on its way to becoming a CCFan classic BKH

John thats how we store water up here so we have it when we need it.For that reason thats why Georgia dosen't have any.And don't kid yourself,you remember all too well what that is

Tim- Did you try Brideau sheet metal in Leominster?

Does anyone know where you can buy a new "bent center" axle, like the one HW was talking about. I have looked around the internet quite a bit and only found the regular 4" drop axles, which won't work on my trailer.

azeus17 wrote: Does anyone know where you can buy a new "bent center" axle, like the one HW was talking about. I have looked around the internet quite a bit and only found the regular 4" drop axles, which won't work on my trailer.

To my knowledge, it is not a standard axle. You will need to weld stub axles into the tubing you bend to the needed shape. What are you doing? Do you have a trailer without the bent center?

critter wrote: TRBenj, My trailer is a 1980 (per title) and my fenders look just like yours, so I went out and measured one. My measurements are the same with the exception of the bolt to bolt being 31 inches instead of 31 3/8 and the total length was 33 1/2 instead of 33 3/8. Other than those to minor differences, they appear to be the same.

Roger, thanks for measuring. With the amount that the fenders can flex, my bet is that ours are the same. The bolt holes are actually slotted, so theres a little bit of room for adjustment.