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    Posted: December-21-2008 at 1:29pm
Don't know if you guys get the news about our little country, but friday, our prime minister anounced the dismissal of the entire government.
After more than one and a half year of argueing after the elections in 2007, we finally had a government and now, this government fell...

The reason for the dismissal is the interference of our prime minister in the judicial system... He exerced pressure on some of our top magistrates in order to force the sell of the Fortis Bank Holding to the french banking group BNP Parisbas...

As the base of democracy rests on the separation of the powers, the government could no longer stand...
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Just damn...

Wow, I have a ton of questions...

Will your infrastructure stay in place? What's the rest of the story?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BuffaloBFN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December-21-2008 at 2:00pm
Now that I reread your post it sounds ominously familiar.
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Is the opposition prepared to govern or do you go back to an election? We are headed for a similiar situation in Canada . We heard that Fortes was close to insolvent and needed a bailout similiar to the US banks. Our news made it sound more like a conflict between dutch and French groups.
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Our banks needed a bailout too. Opposition and the shareholders claimed Fortis was sold too quickly to BNP Parisbas and too cheap. The shareholders felt they weren't consulted on the matter and sued the government for these reasons.

For the moment we don't know what the scenario will be... New elections or an interim government (would be the second interim government in one year... )

Pretty ironic is that our prime minister had 800.000 personal votes thanks to his campaign that was built around "good government"
He mentionned that line even more often than Obama saying "Change"...
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What's to keep France or one of the other neighboring countries from annexing you?
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NATO?
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Believe it or not, there are people here that say to annex the dutch speaking north to Holland and the french speaking south to France...
And Brussels independent capital of Europe (like Monaco).
With all the sh*t going on in this country lately... There are moments that I don't mind if they do...
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Well in the media today, they report two different scenario's for the moment:

1. Implementing an interim government lead by one of our former prime ministers... and continue to work untill the normal elections in 2011.
2. Implmenting an interim government and have new elections as soon as possible (toghether with the elections for the european government in june 2009)
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Boy! And we thought we had problems over here in the Good Ol' U.S.A.
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Kristof- you have a Monarchy I think and do they have any power? Just a passing thought but - do they have a Correct Craft??
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Doug, we do have a monarchy, but they only have protocol power... So, our king can't help us there... Too bad, cause he's a good guy.
As far as I know, the royal family do not posess a CC...
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Update on our government soap...

Well the coalition worked all weekend to find a solution... They came up with this:
We have a new prime minister. One of the "Old crocodiles" as we call them here has taken the burdon of replacing our dissmissed prime minister.
Here's the problem... Because of all the f*ck ups, one of the coalition partners backed out, so the government does not have a majority anymore... Opposition is having a field day over this and want to have new elections in june 2009, toghether with the European elections.
But the "reinstated" present government want to continue their (to me bad) work till the normal elections in 2011...
So, in a nutshell, we're not out of the woods quite yet

But then again, compared to what is happening in Isral and Gaza... We have a luxury problem...
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At what point do you just drop your guns and say cant we all just get along? I have a feeling this will be going on 50 years from now.....we need to pipe in some MTV, and some good south African shrooms
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Eric, there's one scene in the movie "The day the earth stood still" that kinda got stuck in my head... John Cleese says to Keanu Reeves: "It is only when man stands on the brink of destruction that he changes... right at the moment that he stands on the edge of the abyss".
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we would be happy to send hillary over maybe with michelle obama , if nothing else we can be rid of them for a few yrs
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Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

we would be happy to send hillary over maybe with michelle obama , if nothing else we can be rid of them for a few yrs

LOL I'm for that!
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Originally posted by 86BFN 86BFN wrote:

Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

we would be happy to send hillary over maybe with michelle obama , if nothing else we can be rid of them for a few yrs

LOL I'm for that!

Nope, you guys keep your own politicians right there... We got enough on our hands with our own...
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Happy New Year Kristof! Hopefully this year will be better than last for all of us!
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Kris, one of my friends spent some time over in Europe and I asked him yesterday where was the best place and he answered Belgium, he said the people were the friendliest and would invite you to talk politics in thier back yard over a Belgian Budwieser...maybe i wont cancel my trip.... oh yeah, he said the older Germans still denied the big H, they said it didnt happen
Happy New Year.

oh yeah, he also did say nobody said to him sorry to hear your from the states lol
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Looking forward to meet you and have couple of beers on our terras and talk politics Eric!
Oh yeah... and try to outwit one another LOL
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