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jackkloepfer
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Thanks, very well explained by all you guys. If I'm going to be cutting narrow strips of glass, I would picture the strips fraying pretty easily around the edges. With that in mind, should I look for a more dense weave fiberglass?? can you guys recommend any specific types or brands of fiberglass and epoxy resin?? Thanks again. this is a tremendous resource. |
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8122pbrainard
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Jack,
Do to the size of the repair needed plus the convenience in finding supplies, I'd say go to a marine supply and look for West products. Brian,When did all this "originality" come out of you? It must be contagious!! Jack, Brian does have a very valid point regarding keeping the wood away from your boat but, if you do find the glue hard to remove, you could get a sheet of one of the composites. |
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jackkloepfer
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the adhesive feels like it should come off pretty easily. plus, the board has a domed section for the v drive access, so I'm really leaning toward keeping it.
I'll keep you guys posted. Looking to clean it off and start grooving out the cracks tonight. |
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jackkloepfer
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I'm grooving out the cracks with a dremel right now, going pretty well.
I was able to get pretty much all of the adhesive off of the top sheet. there appears to be tiny traces of it here and there, but it is pretty much clean. |
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jackkloepfer
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also, does anyone know of something that can serve as a plug for the hole left by the ski pylon???
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jackkloepfer
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So I'm grooving out the cracks right now, and it appears that the material with the cracks is a foam core.
I'm starting to fear that filling these cracks will not help the structural integrity all that much, as I'm basically just filling the cracks in the foam. |
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8122pbrainard
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Jack,
Check some of the online computer or woodworking supplies. They have plugs that are used for desk top wiring hole plugging. This picture is off McMaster's site but you'd end having to buy more than one. |
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bkhallpass
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If it were me, I would drizzle as much epoxy in the crack as I could to fill the gaps. build up a nice strong patch of fiberglass, and put a layer of fiberlass all the way across the panel on each side for strength. I look at it this way. The sides of the hull are fiberglass only - no core. You'd have a very difficult time kicking a hole through the side of the boat. My $.02. BKH |
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jackkloepfer
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grr!
looks like I got caught sleeping. I picked up some "fiberglass resin" that claimed to be for auto and marine application, and it is indeed polyester. I'm guessing I should track down some epoxy, right? |
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8122pbrainard
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The fiberglass on both sides of the repair is very important. The top is going to be under a compression load and the bottom tension just like a stressed skin panel. The glass is what really gives the composite the strength. The break in the existing has fractured the original glass. Just pouring epoxy into the break will "glue" it back together but it will not have the strength. Yes, I'd take the poly resin back and look for the epoxy. Any marine supplies around like I mentioned? |
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79nautique
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is there a section that actually flexes as it is laying on a flat surface? like a big bubble so to say, if so then that whole section needs to come out and if it's down to the foam core.
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jackkloepfer
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Ok, Ok. So this is long over due!
I decided to go a slightly different route with this one, and I figured I should share my results with you guys. I know it took me way to long to post this, but I was having some major computer issues. These are the mid way pics. I decided to add inlaid aluminum trusses to add structural rigidity. aside from that, I continued to to bore out the cracks, and I filled them with a low density filler and epoxy. I then "iced" over everything with epoxy and high density filler to cover it all up. Finally, I laid about 9 layers of fiberglass weave and epoxy without filler to build my height back up, and add rigidity to work with the aluminum trusses. My thinking was to basically add a skeleton to this thing to prevent the same thing happening again. I kind of went out on a limb, here, but I think it paid off, as it is now rock solid! So much better. Thanks everyone for your help, and I'll post more pics of the glassing soon. |
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jackkloepfer
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just an update on this one...as this is one of the very rare times that I have actually CONTRIBUTED something to these boards as opposed to my usual siphoning of your guys's superior knowledge:
this repair went great. it's been 2 seasons since. it is uber solid, and ended up curing very evenly. I like having the aluminum truss' in there...gives me extra piece of mind. I don't think that I'm going to have any problems with this! |
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