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Originally posted by merrittarnold merrittarnold wrote:

Saw my error in checking alignment. Didn't loosen the coupling bolts to check(missed that somehow) with feeler gauge. Checked today; not cool. I had my 12 year old watch the video with me and now he really understands. Might try and get brother-in-law to watch it too.
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Merritt,
We have had some just try to fit the .003" feeler gauge between the coupling halves without loosening up the bolts holding the halves together. What were the measurements when you checked your alignment with the feeler gauge?
I sure hope your brother in law wasn't involved!

No wobble at all in the strut so may not have to replace that bushing, I hope.

Considering the bad alignment, I'd say you will need a new cutlass bearing too.


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Originally posted by merrittarnold merrittarnold wrote:

He is ordering a double taper for me.

Merritt,
PM me on what he is charging you. The mark up with many marinas is pretty big. I'd hate to see you paying too much especially since you are on a budget. You should have called Billy or Karen!
Again, you aren't taking our advise!
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Merritt,
For cost comparing, give Billy or Karen a call at My Correct Parts. 318 386 2825


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Oh the alignment was off enough to measure it in fingers rather than feelers. It was probably a quarter to half an inch on the starboard side.

I know you said Billy and Karen, but I'm a "buy local" when I can kind of guy. School teacher. I get paid with local tax dollars. He's a friend who advertises not be undersold. I told him the price I would get at Skidim and expect him to match it. He's ordering from them anyway and pretty much letting me have access to the tools I need.
This time is a matter of principle.
I'll still let you know the price.
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Anyone wanna buy a boat?

Okay, the new shaft came in yesterday. (The A.R.E. is a beautiful work of engineering art, by the way.)
Installed the shaft and began on the alignment. Mine is the Commander engine which is even tighter around the motor mounts. But the motor mounts are way too loose, I fear. The rear of the engine is shifted all the way to port in the motor mounts and the lag screws don't have enough bite to hold it firm once it's aligned. (I couldn't see how badly it was shifted because the washers were covering the holes.) I think the stringers are too far gone.
I could get thicker/longer lag screws and see if it gets enough torque, but the stringers need to be replaced overall, anyway. I guess bigger screws couldn't make it worse, and the worst I could do is push the stringers that last inch into the grave.

1. Hull is great.
2. Engine is very strong.
3. Steering is one finger easy and smooth.
4. Brand new shaft.
5. Good prop and rudder.
6. Stringers significantly rotted in places.

How difficult is stringer replacement?
Can I do damage elsewhere by using larger lag screws to test stringers under motor mounts?

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Just searched posts about stringer replacement.
Someone mentioned using angled metal for motor mounts.

My stringers are mostly rotted in the back. Under the motor is the strongest place.

Is using angled metal on three sides of the stringers to give motor mounts enough support a justifiable repair?
Or would that just be spraying Lysol on a pile of dog poo on the living room floor?
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Merritt,
Sorry to hear of this development.

figure out how to post pics, if you had done that earlier we might have picked up on the rotten stringers alot sooner since getting it to align will be next to impossible with rotted stringers/loose lags.

if you post some pictures, advise will be forthcoming.
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Merritt - You can bolster it with alum. angle for this summer & then tear into it after the ski season. If you tear into it right now, you might get it done about then, but at least you will have nice weather for working on it (small consolation).

You would take a pretty big price hit selling it with bad stringers.
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You could pour some epoxy in the engine mount holes then set your lags in that as a temporary fix for the rest of the season. Maybe sister in a patch.

The stringers are going to take you about 10x longer than you think so I would wait and start on them later or start now and except the fact you won't be back on the water this year. Just make sure you alignment is sturdy enough if you decided to run her the rest of the year or you'll cost yourself more money. You'll also cost yourself money if you try to rush the stringers. Take your time
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Merritt,
If you know anything these boats, it's that any one of them older than a '92 will eventually need new stringers. A very, very select few may get away from the dirty deed depending how they were used and stored.
It's just a fact of life. Many members here have been through it. Most every one of them say they never want to do it again, but then there the few who actually pick up another project boat and go through the whole ordeal again. It's a time consuming chore but one that can save yourself thousands of dollars if you do it yourself. Many members here attempted it with virtually no skills and was able to complete it with our encouragement.
I know probably not what you wanted to hear but a very satisfying projet when it's completed and you know it was done right.

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Merritt - I don't think you ever mentioned what year/model it is... what is it?
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He's in Georgia, the weather is not nice for doing stringers now and probably won't be until sometime in September.
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Merrit,
Understand that bolting reinforcement to the stringers or pouring epoxy down the lag holes is just temporary. yes, it may get you through the season but keep in mind where all your problems started.

How's you strut to log alignment?


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