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Originally posted by 65 'cuda 65 'cuda wrote:

Santa put a little winter project under the tree!
Time to get the little Mercury running well.

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Santa put a little winter project under the tree!



Time to get the little Mercury running well.
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We have a Vagabond 14 which is Holder 14/Hobie one-14. Havn't been able to use it in about 20 years,someday when I retire-----
This is the only picture I could find,today it still looks as new as the day we bought it,it has always been kept inside covered. If you look close you can see the Mrs,she was lighter than the mast,darn kids This was in Key Largo before my parents put in the house. We should bring this to a reunion at GL,guaranteed calm water when we go sailing!

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Haha Joe, I have pitchploed a Hobie 16, haven't sailed one much if that hasn't happened,   The Hobie 14 is a turbo, so yes good suggestion for the 14 turbo. Thanks.
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That LeBaron crash test is not comparable to current standards. It was rated four stars at the time. I saw this footage in a crash investigators course I took back in about 89. There were no industry wide testing standards in effect in 1989, and if I remember correctly that offset frontal crash test was done at 55MPH. It was done because Chrysler was the first auto maker to install air bags as standard equipment in 1988, and the test was done to assess the effectiveness of the "new" air bag technology. Many current cars wouldn't do much better at that speed.

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My goodness Joel! I remember a lot of cowl shake and windshield frame movement over bumps in the GTC's we sold. Scary.
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Just don't get into a collision in that LaBaron- those things pretty much fold into a taco of metal when hit. I remember being totally shocked by the crash test photos of those. Can't find them now, but I did find this LeBaron vs. LeBaron
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Tee 89's with the fiber wheels are cool but can't be repaired when people found curbs. My "le mans" wheels were trashed and a company was able to make them look like new again for me. I graduated and went to college and the boat, the 73 911, and my 67 took priority over the CSX so it was stored in barn from the time I was 16-24. I would take it for an open down pipe blast once in a while but now with a real job and bills to pay I didn't see how I could justify a full restoration on a car that wouldn't be worth more than 3500 bucks. It was #542. Dad had a perfect low mileage Shelby Dakota when I was a kid. My first car was a pretty red 89 non turbo Daytona. I thought I would be nice and let my little cousin drive our 89 4 door 2.5 turbo Shadow untill he finished school. He promptly toasted the motor and sold the car to a scrap yard without my knowledge.....

I sure pissed off a lot of guys in new Mustangs and Crossfires when I was 16 in that car! The GP struts and Shelby springs sure made that thing fun to drive.
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Originally posted by DrStevens DrStevens wrote:

Justin, I will get some Hobie photos next Summer, its in the garage now, it looks its best with the sail up. I had a Hobie 16 years ago, I wanted a smaller one, they are easier to pitchpole.


I fixed if for ya.

See if you can't find a turbo kit for it somewhere, it's a much more usable boat with the small jib.
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Justin, I will get some Hobie photos next Summer, its in the garage now, it looks its best with the sail up. I had a Hobie 16 years ago, I wanted a smaller one, they are easier to right.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

That sure has to be the ultimate "sleeper" John

I believe the 12 second minivans have that title, Gary.
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That sure has to be the ultimate "sleeper" John
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John that car is pretty! I had a black GTC turbo drop top that was a rough puppy. The first pass I ever made down the track was in my 88 CSX-T. Sadly I let her go to someone who could finish it and enjoy it. [/QUOTE]

I believe everyone in the Shelby Dodge Auto Club secretly pokes fun at my "chick car" behind my back. The band Cake has immortalized the LeBaron in their song "Short Skirt Long Jacket" with the lyrics "she's changing her name from Kitty to Karen, she's trading her MG for a white Chrysler LeBaron". Last year my car was chosen for one month's photo on a calendar for the club. The information printed on the page was my name as owner followed by "1989 LeBacon Turbo GTC". I thought it was a misprint at first, but I found that they had renamed it the LeBacon because men love bacon, a feeble attempt to make the car seem masculine.
The CSX is more to their liking, there are a lot of them in the club, several even have the original Shelby "fiber ride" wheels. They range from original to very modified, and some are quite fast. it is surprising to some how many of these cars were made and the following they have. Back in the 80's not much performed better than these 30MPG toys.
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I believe your LeBacon was a little different than mine. The 89 Turbo GTC only came in white or red, and they made a total of 906 of them. They had 2.2 liter intercooled engines without balance shafts, a 5 speed Getrag trans, and 4 wheel disc brakes, among other differences. This one is an original "survivor" except for the top and some bolt on engine mods.
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My project has expanded. I had built a small 3 watt tube amp a few years ago but never built any encasement for it, so I decided to make a little mini stack out of it. So far I have the head unit boxed and routed, and the cabinted framed.

The speaker cab is a little bit of an unusual experiment for a guitar speaker. I am going with a dual ported closed back design. We will see how it sounds. The frame is solid 3/4 solid pine and the baffle and rear panel will by 13 ply baltic ply. Here is what I have so far. I ordered some tolex samples that will come with week so I can decide how to cover and the speaker I got a is a celestion vintage 30 frame custom treated by bad cat.

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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

In addition to finishing the Mustang, I am taking my 89 Turbo GTC in to have my Quaife limited slip differential installed. I hope to borrow a set of slicks and improve my ET to under 12:70 ( I have only taken it to the strip once and made 5-6 passes on street radials). Unfortunately, it won't be back in time to do it before the strip closes at the end of October.
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John that car is pretty! I had a black GTC turbo drop top that was a rough puppy. The first pass I ever made down the track was in my 88 CSX-T. Sadly I let her go to someone who could finish it and enjoy it.
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Originally posted by DrStevens DrStevens wrote:

Just bought a Hobie cat 14 to fix up, not sold in the US market at that length anymore. I won't be thinking about gas prices when on the water sailing.


I would love to see pictures, my father in law has a 16ft hobie up on elk lake, MI. We go every fourth of july, its fun. It usually ends with us flipping it.
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These is the shape of the seals, basically looks like a normal profile with various end caps bonded on.






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You might want to try here also- seals+direct they were the only ones I could find to help me with the seal I needed for the boats glass
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The profile looks normal, it is the construction that differs. each piece has a thin metal backing. on the rear is moulded a 'C' section that slides over part of the hood frame, the front is a normal hollow '0' shape. The front and back sections also have ends mounded onto them.

UK prices are:
Approximate current prices are:

Front Top: £130
Middle Top: £140
Rear Back: £160

So to replace all six seals will cost you £860.

A rear replacement screen will cost you £880

A new vinyl hood with screen £1760

The front screen to side window seal will cost £261

I will get pictures tomorrow, however this ebay pic shows it
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if you can get a cross cut section of it   it will help the suppliers identify it ,   you may find it interchanges with other car manufacturers
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I know nothing about refurbishing weatherstrip or rubber components. I would think that you would run into the same problem you have due to the age of the rubber. I have bought new weatherstrip / seal for several cars and $1,000 for six pieces sounds very pricey to me. I am really unfamiliar with the Barchetta, but many cars use the same weatherstripping / door seals. Here is one of the companies that markets them for aftermarket and restoration. I believe I have used them in the past, but there are several companies that make this stuff, so I'm not sure. Good luck

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I have started on waterproofing the Barchetta and have removed the door to roof seals as they have split. The obvious answer is to replace them but they are nearly $1000 for a set of 6 in the UK for new and obviously there are secondhand ones around and they are about $320, and these will be old as they stopped production in 2005.... So repair is needed.

Does anybody have any ideas on fixing them or are there companies that can refurbish them?

the tear shown goes through both sides. Somewhere in the past a repair has been attempted with superglue. This has split again as I think superglue doesn't flex enough for the seal

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Thanks Pete, Billy, as in BoatDr from Louisiana? He has helped with my CC.     As for water skiing behind a Hobie, I have seen it done, never tried myself. It's rough, no wake cut so it's wavey, as to do it it must be windy. My 14, has a jib, I used to have a Hobie 16 years ago, wanted something smaller, easier to right. They are not expensive as its old and sailing seems to be not too popular here in my area anymore. There are many Summer afternoons when the wind, tubers, and boats have chopped up the water and riding around in the CC is not terrific.    Pete, I was in Madison WI last weekend, brought home a bunch of Carr Valley cheese.
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You can still ski behind it... I have skied behind a Hobie 16, OK it has the jib, but should be possible behind a 14. You basically start in the water on the windward quarter and the Hobie behind you so it can start on a broad reach and sail an arc round you to keep the rope tight. If it's windy enough the Hobie has the speed to be on the plane before it has to pull you.

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Originally posted by DrStevens DrStevens wrote:

Just bought a Hobie cat 14 to fix up, not sold in the US market at that length anymore. I won't be thinking about gas prices when on the water sailing.

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Just bought a Hobie cat 14 to fix up, not sold in the US market at that length anymore. I won't be thinking about gas prices when on the water sailing.
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Originally posted by must_dash must_dash wrote:

I can ask around. I don't recognise it do you have a model etc?
Is condition important, or is it as a project.

Can you drive these in the UK?


Tom, yes you can drive in the UK its a Paiggio 500 D the 500 is the Kg it load there are 250,500,750 kg engine is 125cc or 172cc......more pictures of different body types.... no I'm not doing the US truck.... the fire tuck is the right year type the other is a 59 to 64 which is ok too.
yes more projects.



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I can ask around. I don't recognise it do you have a model etc?
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Can you drive these in the UK?
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Originally posted by must_dash must_dash wrote:

This is my winter project.

Just acquired for next summer, a 1997 Fiat Barchetta, a 1.8ltr classic Italian design sports car.
Barchetta means 'little boat' in Italian. It was collected from the previous owner on the Martinique trailer. Took the beds off, laid some ladders on the frame and some planks on these so it could be driven on and off.

It has been abused by previous owners, but nothing terminal that TLC can't sort out.



Tom, can you keep a look out for one of these,we are looking to pick one up in Northern Italy but 2 would be better to fill the van...also need a left hand door viewed from the front.....a 5th wheel model would be cool 64 to 67 like this one.

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Really not a "winter project" but, I FINALLY took time to start my welding table this weekend. First project with my Miller 211... Still have more to do on it, but at least it is usable.

Was going to build completely from scratch, when a contractor told me about his industrial pallet shelving he wanted to sell, $50/ unit. Had to weld the upright legs to the base, but worked great!




A friend gave me a sheet of 3/8 diamond plate... my son cut it to size , 72" long x 33" deep. Also had him plasma cut the "X" in the left half of the top for clamps. Bought a set of 5"x2" casters (rated 1,000 lb each)from ebay



These pics show the clamps (bought at good 'ol Menards) in the slots...






Still have to mount a vise. (thinking strongly on a receiver to make it removable). Also want to add clamp storage, power strip, removable welding screen on back and both ends, etc.

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