so my tranny is toast, new tranny is here!

what about eric?

It's probably toasted but there are 2 things I would try first.
Where the cooler return line enters the trans at the bottom drivers side there in a wire mesh filter inside. Remove that line, unscrew the housing (need a 1 1/8 wrench), and the whole assembly will come out with just your finger. If it's full of clutch parts or metal, forget it, you need it rebuilt. If it's clean, try flushing the tranny with several quarts of type F fluid (no friction modifiers), you can blow it through with compressed air at the filler and out the bottom into a pan.
Button it up and add 2 quarts of type F. Might get you through for a while. Worked for me for 10 hours use so far, and mine had water in from a bad tranny cooler.. Yes I will send it to Eric before next summer.

in the event i decide for a new unit..I was wondering if with the care of being easy on the throtle..could I continue using it like this? Or there´s a chance to evolve into a complete no fwd in a sudden?

This week I will inspect the cooler and do a fluid change....

Seb, sorry to hear your lose there bro. Hope everything gets fixed right.

kapla wrote: as a referece for rebuilt cost I have Lucho experience, he was charged around $2500 for doing a velvet from a moomba, all new seal, gaskets etc....

Correction, it was a ZF 45D 1:1 and it was more like U$D2800.

It seem parts for these ZF are pretty high on price compared to the Velvet's.

buy a new loaded drum........easily can walk Luch thru this one.
are there taxes if you right warranty on the boxes? ship it as a warranty unit
sorry write

a loaded drum as the drum and the clutch assy? and of course the gasket set....and seals?
around $800 in parts only US price.....local price por those part can sometimes be double or triple, depends where you buy them. Then there´s the warranty issue, If you provide the parts to the shop they might not warrant the job. But they kill you with the price of the parts they provide...same parts

kapla wrote: so looks like they have service life of around 1200? or its just lottery?

I would bet that how well it was cared for- oil changes, alignment, etc as well as how hard it was run would be greater influences on life expectancy than "luck of the draw". Neither you nor the previous owner ran your boat with hefty ballast, right?

If I opt for a new unit...buying new oil lines and a cooler is a must? or can I reuse my old stuf....which is in good shape? anyway its not that expensive those parts

kapla wrote: Sort of coming! I been leaving in borrowed time with the tranny and this saturday it showed it first signs of wear! Its sipping load...if you are easy on the throte its fine, but when you hammer it it sips a bit....I fist with some ball sac in the back..then with no balls and me bare.... I checked tranny and it leaks, no smell that i can tell...tranny was hot to touch.... I say borrowed time as I had some drag I would put on and kept working with this for the last 2 years. Now looking at the prices of a new unit... still need to do some research.... and this when we are almost at the beginig of the season

you have a cross dressing season? quinner does it all year

drum 326.00 clutch kit 200.00 seal and gasket 186.00
what happens when you guys purchase from E-bay?
my suggestion of writing warranty on the box and paperwork normally will let it slide thru customs

we do know people at DIM, would a ghost invoice help? credit card the transaction possibly?

you cant let a kid like me loose in a candy store

wish i had one laying around to send ya, 40 empty cases and no drums, like i said the parts are a killer.
Kap, not all drums crack, it could just need a freshening up, nice soft pliable o-rings do wonders.
would Luch be willing to tear into it? its unusual to see a trans with your hours with a cracked drum, more prevalent in lower hour boats. there are times when you can go thru these transmissions with a seal and gasket kit and clutches, all it takes is one good slip and if you glaze the clutches they wont hold, that may too be a possibilty

Eric

I had parts quoted locally and I can tell you prices are high! gasket set $490, complete clutch assy around $900, there you go with the $1400 in parts, add $600 in labour the shop takes to do the tear down, clean, parts replacement etc, etc...and you are in the 2k...then if the drum is cracked another $900, and if the pump is shot, another $900...so the bill is up to $3600....
I could save some money buying the parts in the US but i would have to buy all parts needed including the drum and pump, just in case.. you ..know ...in that case I would end up paying around 1200 net in parts if I get someone to bring them in their luggage without paying taxes, or around 1800-2000 if I have them shipped and pay taxes...labours of course if fixed so I end up again around 2000-2500 for a rebuilt unit....Time is also a factor....If I order the parts I have to wait around 10 days to have them here and another 10 days in the shop for a rebuilt....

So the new unit looks like the best option..and I get to play with the old tranny, even with more time..I could have it diagnosed by you, buy the needed parts there and then sell it as a rebuilt unit...
For reference a PCM 1:1 is $4500, A velvet in the 3600-4000 range as they are more common here.