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Nice work as usually Mr. Ben, Hes where i am as of last night, Lots of grinding and itching still to come As you can see some gel was removed when pulling the exhaust tips, thinking of going with that stainless myself!
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Shane - Great progress. I am sure when you start putting it back together, it starts being fun. What was the hole (to right of ex outlet) for? Bilge pump?
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SN- The pictures are a lilttle oversized, you can actually scroll from left to right on them....There is actually two holes, one by each exhaust..They are under water accent lights(led...I hope it becomes more fun!!
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Just throwing this out there, while you have it all apart. I'm thinking with the deeper hulls of these BFNs:

Has anyone ever attempted a slalom ski edit: locker, running lengthwise? Like either just to the left (or right depending on cable runs etc.) of the doghouse? Or would an unsupported cavity long enough for a slalom ski not be possible?

I'm thinking it could have a coupe of piano hinges like the in floor coolers on the modern boats have.
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That is a good thought. I couldnt imagine making enuff room for a ski being you have ribs in there for floor support..I may consider some type of cooler, That would be great!!

So unfortunately i have gotten quite a few gel spider cracks from taking out the floor and stringers..What do you all suggest i do?? Makes me= not happy I started grinding today which takes forever and i dont think i have ever wanted to go crazy as much with all the scratching ahhhh!!!
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Invest in some disposable paint suits, helps with the itch
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+1 on the Tyvek suit.

Where are the cracks showing up? Did you remove both main stringers? Figure this out before you go forward.
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Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

They are under water accent lights(led...I hope it becomes more fun!!

Make sure you post over on PN and WB the finished LED lights. They will really love them!!!


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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

Just throwing this out there, while you have it all apart. I'm thinking with the deeper hulls of these BFNs:

Has anyone ever attempted a slalom ski edit: locker, running lengthwise? Like either just to the left (or right depending on cable runs etc.) of the doghouse? Or would an unsupported cavity long enough for a slalom ski not be possible?

I'm thinking it could have a coupe of piano hinges like the in floor coolers on the modern boats have.

I assume youre talking about below the floor? The factory put ribs between the secondary stringer and hull wall every 30" or so. You'd need to remove (or seriously cut into) at least one or 2 to end up with a cavity long enough for a ski. If not refoaming, placing a rib every 12-18" is a better practice... so not a lot of room left under there.
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While pulling the plug port and skeggs off i noticed some gel that was cracked on underside of hull where left main seemed to be.
.ill get a pick up, also a few on the gunnels as well. Seems when i pulled th exh tips and one of the skeggs the gel came right off with it??? Im screwed
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Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

While pulling the plug port and skeggs off i noticed some gel that was cracked on underside of hull where left main seemed to be.
.ill get a pick up, also a few on the gunnels as well. Seems when i pulled th exh tips and one of the skeggs the gel came right off with it??? Im screwed


well, if its just on the underside you can grind out the crack and repair. Its not so bad! Yours could look like mine and be cracked everywhere, I will probably need to regel one day.
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here is me getting ready for some grinding today.....I also grinded right through the hull?????? Assuming ill be okay doing glass when rebuilding>> very thin there!!
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Ya I did that too in a spot. It can be patched, I did mine with the edge of the grinding disk
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Shane,
Are these pictures showing you going on a has-mat job?

Sorry, but I always question the "protective" gear you guys seem to use. I just go out and grab the grinder and do it! What are you afraid of? Have you been looking at the MSDS on the resin and glass?


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Do you have the boat supported other than the trailer? here is a pic of my project supported.
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Sorry wont let me upload pic! look at 75 separator rebuild and you can see the cradel the boat sits on. look at pic of boat out side of garage.
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Shane, I went thru the hull on mine also. My hole was smaller and I put tape on the outside of the boat and filled a layer with thickened epoxy and the built up with glass. No problem.
I'm with you on suiting up while grinding that glass dust gets everywhere. And itch!
Looks like your making good progress thanks for taking the time to share with us. Monty
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I figured it would be fixable!! Not a great feeling going through! Yes i am going haz-mat! I was tough for the dirst timr to until fiberglass was up my ass!!! The boat is just supported by the trsiler right now, will block it when getting ready to assemble, so much grinding still left to do!!!
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Time out! You really need to do some reading. I'd suggest picking one thread that most closely matches the meathods you are using and try to get very familiar with it.

In a thread like that you'd see that removing one main stringer at a time maintains the hull integrity and prevents stress cracks in the gel. You'd also see that you want your boat properly supported before the floor comes out.
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Buffalo, its a lilttle late for that!! I am following a thread and im doing nearly bens build.
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Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

Buffalo, its a lilttle late for that!! I am following a thread and im doing nearly bens build.

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ya get that thing blocked. You dont want to mess up that pretty gel.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

Buffalo, its a lilttle late for that!! I am following a thread and im doing nearly bens build.

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Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

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Got it! Yes, following in Tim's footsteps is a fantastic idea. You will not go wrong except, don't use Bilgekote over epoxy!!


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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

Time out! You really need to do some reading. I'd suggest picking one thread that most closely matches the meathods you are using and try to get very familiar with it.

In a thread like that you'd see that removing one main stringer at a time maintains the hull integrity and prevents stress cracks in the gel. You'd also see that you want your boat properly supported before the floor comes out.

Greg, does this mean that you did all of your grinding in the garage? Ill never make that mistake again! We kept our BFN mobile (on the trailer)- all grinding was done outside. We stripped it to the bare hull and only supported it properly prior to rebuilding the structure... no extra stress cracks appeared in the hull. Perhaps the late 80's boats were a bit thinner than our '79 though?
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