Denver shooting ....

if only there had been a few or even one concealed carry person in that crowd maybe it could have been stopped.

Ya its nuts! A lady my wife works with, her sister was involved. Her boyfriend was killed and she was shot in the leg, she is in surgery now but they expect her to be ok.

As much as I would like to think that if someone had a gun they could have stopped him, its probably unlikely. In a packed theatre full of panicking people running everywhere, unless he was in the first few rows he (or she) would have never gotten a decent shot.

It is sad, more of a crazy issue than a gun control issue.. although that is where we all want to go when we see things that are so crazy we cant comprehend them. A well trained and compentent person in the theater armed might have been able to limit the damage, but 10 gang members in the theater with pistols in thier belt might have turned a dark smoky theather into a night mare of cross fire where the shooting only stops once everyone is out of ammo. The reality is there is no amount of gun control, security, or arming of the people that will ever prevent a person that is not concerned about their own safety or future from being able to damage yours and this is just a sad and tragic event. All that can be done now is to ensure the offender is punished with prejudice and not rationalized or glorified.

peter1234 wrote: if only there had been a few or even one concealed carry person in that crowd maybe it could have been stopped.

+1

I just read this guy had a bullet proof vest, gas mask, riot helmet, two pistols, a rifle and a shotgun. This guy was prepared for a war, someone with a pistol wouldnt have stood a chance.

ya you are right, maybe it would stun him long enough for someone to jump him.

some men just want to watch the world burn...

mrwillya wrote: If more people exercised their right to carry a firearm, I believe this could have been prevented. Now if only 3 or 4 people were carrying in a crowd of 200 (guesstimate) then it would have made little to no difference (depending on the seating of the CCW individual). But if a higher percentage of people carried (say 25%), the likely hood of someone sitting towards the front with a clear shot is greatly elevated. My other thought is, this guy may have thought twice about doing this if he knew that there were 50 armed individuals were sitting in there. I already have my CCW permit, but don't carry often. After this I'll be picking up my pocket pistol (Micro Eagle) and doing my part in being able to fight back with terrible people like this.

My thoughts exactly. If everyone would carry a weapon NOT concealed out in the open cowardly thugs just might think twice before trying to grab someones purse or hi jack someones car. In reality if there were 5 patrons in that theater with the training needed to carry a firearm, This maniac would not have stood a chance.
I carry everywhere i go, boating, to the movies, mall even to get a loaf of bread.THIS happened only a few miles from my house at a wal-mart my wife and i frequently visit. this news reporter makes light of this but what she didnt mention is the shots fired and the gun shot victim taken to the hospital with a gun shot wound. Im sure that these ignorant fools that made this ruckus would have less likely been apt to do this if there were more carriers. What will you do when they decide to come to your home instead of Wal mart

You need a head shot on the guy, in some training I was in we simulated a hostage situation at 50 yards targets had a balloon taped by the head of the silouette, the balloon being the head of the hostage taker, with the object being a popped balloon with no holes in the poor hostage silouette. I stepped up and first shot of the .40 cal Glock 22 popped the balloon. Most of the other veteran LE officers fired multiple rounds never hitting the balloon, they "killed" the hostage, some shot 3 15 round mags and never hit the balloon.

it would have taken a very good shot to drop the guy but in the commotion I think someone well trained might have been able to stop him.

If someone wants to kill you they are going to do it because they know how and when its going to happen. Action beats reaction.

Crazy folks will do crazy stuff, always have always will.

this story is the type of thing the media will persecute the gun owners . it is a tragedy for all involved but .. a person like this? he would have found a way to do this without a gun be it a gallon bucket of gas or other horrendous weapon.. I know people feel that a handgun carrier in that place could have either wounded him enough to only make him more out of his mind ( if that was possible) or that he was wearing a vest .(even a 38 spec will pause him long enough to get at him.   i wish there were more people (good citizens) armed

GlassSeeker wrote: we simulated a hostage situation at 50 yards targets had a balloon taped by the head of the silouette, the balloon being the head of the hostage taker, with the object being a popped balloon with no holes in the poor hostage silouette.

50 yards! With a 3.5" barrel? Hell, I qualify expert and could seldom make that shot! They actually simulate that with service pistols? Hats off to you!

its one thing to own a gun, its another to aim it on another human and pull the trigger, only 15% of vietnam vets could squeeze one off with a man in his sights, the rest was random shootings...if you ever watch clips, the gun is at their sides or they are just spraying....so chances are pretty damn good that if you are in a theater and you hear shooting, your hitting the floor and shaking and the gun will stay holstered.....I would bet money, there was at least 1 ccw in that audience, and he *************** his pants

you know what buck fever is? you guy's aint shootin nobody, this guy contemplated for months to get the balls to do this, anybody can carry a gun, but using it is a different story

eric lavine wrote: you know what buck fever is? you guy's aint shootin nobody, this guy contemplated for months to get the balls to do this, anybody can carry a gun, but using it is a different story

Ever heard of trophy bucks that get mounted? People might get buck fever, but they can still perform. It's called training and preparation. I'd at least want the chance to defend myself and others if some moron tried to do this.

I'd like to think that I'd be willing and able to perform if my life and my loved ones lives are on the line.

I heard about the shootings via the headlines but that is about it. I've chosen to not read about all the doom and gloom because whats the point? What is it about Colorado that seems to bring out this senseless mass killings? Columbine, now this? I know it's just a coincidence but......   Very tragic and sad that this has happened yet again. I wonder if theaters will put the Kabash on fans coming dressed up in costume at Midnight showings to "prevent" this from happening again and how long will it take before someone files a lawsuit against the theater or makers of the movie for not preventing this from happening. You wait it'll happen.

Tragic story indeed and my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, their families, and all those patrons who will be scarred for life.