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Shane,
There is a lot of footers on here me included.
I have an 86 Barefoot Nautique also. Tullfooter has an 85 BFN.
Happy New Year to you also and welcome to the site.
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Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

Did you end up getting a boat??


I've had my '85 for about 4 years. When I looked at yours, I was looking to find something with more speed (looks like your boat would have fit that bill). I happen to be in the Orlando area for a funeral, so I figured I would check the boat out. With the overheating problem and the lack of a trailer, I figured it to be too much headache for me at the time. I'm also not one to get into a floor/stringer project. (I've since bought a pole barn)
Take a lot of photos; the guys (and gals) on this site love photos. Don't hesitate to ask questions. I don't think there's a better source of info on CC boats. (just don't bring up politics or religion, ie. "Has anyone seen Eric?")   
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Well i am proud to be the owner of a barefoot! You both seem to have beautiful barefoots! I happen to run across my boat for the second time not to long before i boat it. I saw it on a forum of some sort about a year later and could remember it vividly of coarse with the merc 496. It truely is more motor than you could ever need in a ski boat. Im not certain but i believe when you say "avatar" you are referring to your profile picture>>??? I think that is just a bit over my budget!!
They rebuild just about the entire boat but the floor, what a surprise! Something i knew that needed to be done and its gonna be better than it ever was from the start when i am finished!!( i hope!!) I do appreciate all of your inputs as i may not be able to refer back to each and everyone of your comments.

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Guys here is where i am since last night. Have just about all the foam out except a lilttle under the bow and just removed the fuel tank last night that out later.
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Thanks for the great pictures. keep them coming. If you could size them down just a bit it would help.

That is a sweet looking boat!    

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Do I really have to police this thread for Pete? Where's the bat symbol?

haha thought the dash was graphic then I saw that M word motor in it...

Gonna be awesome when you're done, thanks for sharing the pics!
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well its too late for original now so you might as well go all the way!
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Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

well its too late for original now so you might as well go all the way!


What, you don't think the airguides will fit back in that GPS hole? Couldn't agree more!

I'd love a BFN with our GT40 motor in it. Wouldn't something like that scream?
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Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:


I'd love a BFN with our GT40 motor in it. Wouldn't something like that scream?

It would make for a pretty decent ski boat, but I wouldnt call it a screamer. It would probably push an earlier BFN to the 48-50mph range, similar to the 330hp 454.

If you want to go fast, start with big cubes and then make the engine breathe!
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I don't have cubic dollars :(
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eww, dirty.

Thats a fancy engine hoist!
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Shane, I got your email, but cannot reply directly since your email is set to "private". You might want to update that so people can get in touch with you. Feel free to email me directly if you want: TRBenj@gmail.com

I didnt consider any other alternatives to the Coosa when it came time for our BFN build. JoeinNY had already done all of the leg work in identifying it as the "go-to" material. Ive since done more reading out of curiosity and still think its the way to go. The only real downsides to using it were the cost (~$250 per 4x8 sheet), and the need to pre-glass or laminate everything together prior to installation. For a boat I plan to keep forever, its definitely the way to go.

I contacted Coosa directly and identified a distributor that was semi-local to me on the last go around. Since then, CompositesOne has become a distributor, and I would probably use them next time. They also carry Airex PXC (formerly known as Penske Board) which looks to be very similar to Coosa in both functionality and cost. Their "320" lines up nicely with the Coosa Bluewater 20 (floors) and their 420 lines up with the Bluewater 26 (stringers).

A member here is a CompositesOne employee (Nautique Frk) and pointed me in the right direction. Go online and identify their closest distributor to you and give them a call- they'll be able to set you up with an account to purchase direct.

As far as I know, US Composites does not sell Coosa or Airex... but I do get all of my other fiberglass supplies from them.
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Nice job on the engine hoist, haven't seen that on here yet.
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Worked out great, took a total of 30 minutes from the time he pulled in until the time i payed him. Like butter ( rich man engine hoist)!!!! haha
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Cool thread going on here! I am glad to see someone finally got that boat... sure not so original but the makings of a pretty nice ride definitely some money spent so far. I agree with brother Benjamin that you should go with the coose/airex option, after all what is another thousand amongst friends. Certainly the payback in the long term is worth a g? Lets see you at the St Johns river in March with or without boat, maybe we can teach you a little beginning footing (if it is me doing the teaching beginning is all you are going to get) so you can do that boat proud on its maiden journey.

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Nice engine!! must be scary fast!
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Shane, It was good talking with you on the phone last night, If you need a contact for purchasing items from our Composites One facility in Lakeland Fla. I will hook you up. We sell most all of the materials you will use. The guy who rebuilt the Fish Nautique on this site did an awesome job on the whole project you should look at his posts and possibly talk with him as well he could be a good resource for you as well.
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Joe thanks, Id look to think i am as sophisticated as you Grand poobahs and your floor rebuilds! I couldn't agree more with Benjamin. That is one computerized SOB!!! I would love to come to the river in march and do some footing. I'm not sure where you are talking?? assuming in North Carolina...she covers some miles now. I am about 15 away here outside of Jacksonville Fl. I anticipate at the rate it is going to take me to comprehend how to be so precise with this floor job that (spunky,his name)will still be underway, no guarantee though, will just have to see!

Frank, you were very helpful with your advice and i most likely will be ordering through one of your distributors!
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The St Johns river run is in florida outside of orlando, most everyone stays at Paramores
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That's great! Def do plan on attending. Have to get specific dates and plan it in..Check out this Rudder port, its totally messed up..The port hole is basically all weak and broken fiberglass...not sure what all im gonna need to do for this?? Help would be great!
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Shane,
Originally there was a plywood built up area around the port. It looks like your's completely rotted away. For reference, Tim's BFN rebuild thread should have some pictures of the built up area even though he used the Coosa.

Since this area was in such bad shape, I highly recommend you look at all the wood built up spots. Especially the lifting ring anchors.


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I actually already took the wooden piece off..Its more of the underside of the whole im worried about.
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Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

I actually already took the wooden piece off..Its more of the underside of the whole im worried about.

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The outside of the hull? Gel damage?

I wouldn't worry about the inside. Once you gring it down and build it back up, it will be fine.


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Yes, it has gel damage pretty severely. The fiberglass you see with the hole and screw holes for the Rutter port is actually cracked. I belive some grinding will need to be done to the as well??? Im going to have to learn how to gel as well because i have all the gel or fiberglass on the front of the keel scraped off and a few other spots.
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Originally posted by shane krausser shane krausser wrote:

I belive some grinding will need to be done to the as well???


You'll have to grind it back to solid glass on the inside so the new build-up will stick. You may then have to go at it from the outside after the structure is back.
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Wow, the glass around the port is in tough shape for sure. Our was bad, but not that bad. On the bilge side, Id add a few layers of glass (mat/cloth/biax) before tackling the hull side. We were able to repair ours externally with thickened resin alone (and a careful hand with a dremel to reshape the recess properly). You may need to add some glass there too to build it back up.

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